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Hey Matthew, did you ever cast ITL?
'Cause like right now? I think Bade and Vade look like Justin Timberlake. {runs and hides in just in case} LA
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 02:03:26 PM » |
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Haha, wouldn't Justin be too skinny?  |
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 02:35:40 PM » |
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I don't know if he'd be too skinny, uh... maybe? lol. I still think Brian's the better bet  |
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2009, 06:12:52 PM » |
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I've never pictured anyone (actors, musicians, models, people I know) as anyone in ITL.
(Exception: a model whose hair I borrowed for Hitari.)
But I've never tried to cast ITL. I definitely can't picture anyone worthy of being one of the Seven Siblings!
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2009, 06:30:38 PM » |
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I've never pictured anyone (actors, musicians, models, people I know) as anyone in ITL.
(Exception: a model whose hair I borrowed for Hitari.)
But I've never tried to cast ITL. I definitely can't picture anyone worthy of being one of the Seven Siblings!
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 05:41:45 AM » |
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See - this is why they can't make a movie or TV series about this generation of Siblings. Nobody would fit the images that we have in our heads. Maybe another generation that we haven't ingrained into our brains?
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 06:28:27 AM » |
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Which generation are you thinking about?
I must say, it would be interesting to read/see/hear more about Orinakin's previous travels... all of them... *nod*
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 03:02:50 PM » |
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I was actually thinking more of a future generation, perhaps grandchildren of the current Siblings?
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 03:46:46 PM » |
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Oooh, that would be interesting! We'll just have to wait 5 years until the rest of the books are written to have an idea of what's happened in Orina Anoris |
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 05:50:48 PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 06:30:15 PM » |
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Can we cast belas as well?  I'm really having fun looking through the male models' pics.  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 07:04:37 PM » |
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I have never seen anyone worthy of being one of the Seven Siblings. Don't think it's possible.  But, heck yeah, cast belas. 75 hot guys to drool over . We can work on this for weeks!  -Diamond |
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 09:41:22 PM » |
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I have never seen anyone worthy of being one of the Seven Siblings. Don't think it's possible. ::nod, nod:: Also, the Norwegian male model was quite cute, but just not Xio Voe enough for me. I don't think I could find anyone to fit what I see him in my mind as. But, heck yeah, cast belas. 75 hot guys to drool over . We can work on this for weeks! -Diamond ::grows dizzy:: Whoa, we really could... My head spins at all the pictures people could post of guys they see as the belas... |
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2009, 01:23:36 PM » |
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HOLY POTATOES!!!!
Yes, I just cried that out loud, lmao. LOVE those pictures lol. Now I have to go hunting lol. Evil!!!!!!! lol
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2009, 01:40:37 PM » |
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^^^ I know! I'm on this male model forum, and I've been going crazy looking for the right persons! Hopefully I'll have time to post some candidates this weekend.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2009, 02:05:30 PM » |
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Mmmmm... I recently came up with some gorgeous models for this story I'm writing (I have no idea how Matthew does it, by the way), and I'm sure I'll go search for more soon! lol
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2009, 06:30:12 PM » |
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Just throwing in my two cents but have you all thought about anime? hmmm? wouldnt need to cast anyone, just the voices lol. the animators would draw the perfect koudrin... the perfect Bade...
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 06:34:27 PM » |
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Anime would make the whole thing easier, from casting to set design.
At the same time, it would rob me of the fun of the casting couch. (Which I'm vehemently opposed to, when I'm not the one casting.)
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2009, 06:42:41 PM » |
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But, but.... but...
I effing HATE anime. MHT, you wouldn't force me to watch anime, would you?
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2009, 06:46:12 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2009, 07:04:08 PM » |
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I effing HATE anime. MHT, you wouldn't force me to watch anime, would you? And that's the other problem. Several terrific readers have been pretty, um, vocal in their hatred of anime. -Matthew HATE it. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2009, 07:12:19 PM » |
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Hey, blondiechic0, how do you feel about anime?
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2009, 07:18:55 PM » |
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Hey, blondiechic0, how do you feel about anime?
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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2009, 04:18:56 AM » |
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But, but.... but...
I effing HATE anime. MHT, you wouldn't force me to watch anime, would you?
*gasp* Anime is life. But it would rob us of the hot and juicy sex... cause Hentai is just... meh. It's better with real people. Ya know... it'd be more real. Stop looking at me like that!! Vani |
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2009, 04:20:02 AM » |
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BUT .... I LOVE Anime!!  havin a great time looking at Falconer's pics  |
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2009, 04:22:46 AM » |
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BUT .... I LOVE Anime!! havin a great time looking at Falconer's pics lol, the pics are great. I wish I could draw. Alas, that's one technique I just haven't mastered. I can write and play with PSP or Photoshop... that's it for any artistic ability  . I *was* thinking of taking an art class though... but I probably should finish German first. Vani |
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2009, 05:32:27 AM » |
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Eh. Everyone is entitled to have their own preferences. I love anime, personally. It's another wonderful medium to tell fantastic stories, like manga and comic books and epic poetry and plays and movies and books. There are stories told through anime that are hard to tell any other way, just like how you always hear "the book was better" when compared to the movie. There are inherent limitations and possibilities to every artistic medium, and sometimes liking one over the other is a matter of simple preference. As much as I think they're missing out, I have friends who will never get into anime, because it's animated. From what they tell me, as just an example, because they grew up with American cartoons they can't get past the "animated" part of the storytelling, because that type of animation was always for children, stuff they watched when they were growing up. For them, it'll always just be for kids. I think, like comic books, anime can address very serious, very adult themes but isn't taken very seriously by a large number of people. (For instance, the movie "Grave of the Fireflies" made me sob. Some reviewers have called it suicidally depressing, but it's a very simple story that revisits a very important period in history.) Not liking anime is fine, though. Like I said, people have their own preferences, and sometimes it's a question of aesthetics--whether you simply like how anime looks. It's a perfectly valid reason not to like something. Also, a lot of first exposure to anime is through American dub...which is heresy. They try to make it "kid-friendly," and when an anime is about war, death, and personal choice, it's just total crap. Also, because much of the time the actors also grew up with animation as childish cartoons, sometimes they make their performances sillier, or goofier, just instinctively (think Scooby Doo voices), and it messes EVERYTHING UP. This isn't always the case, but the majority of the time, I'd say it is. Japanese voice actors are really respected in Japan for a reason, because they can imbue an entire inner life into their voices. Watch it with subtitles or don't watch it at all, is my view. - Jae Edited to add: For those interested in "Grave of the Fireflies," Roger Ebert said that "it belongs on any list of the greatest war films ever made.": http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20000319/REVIEWS08/3190301/1023 |
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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2009, 02:05:52 PM » |
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*gasp*
Anime is life.
But it would rob us of the hot and juicy sex... cause Hentai is just... meh. It's better with real people.
Ya know... it'd be more real.
Stop looking at me like that!!
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I dunno. It would be easier to draw a perfect penis (Kudorin's) than to find a good actor with a perfect penis... Errr..  havin a great time looking at Falconer's pics Yeah, they're really cool no? I do wish I could draw like that...  Eh. Everyone is entitled to have their own preferences.
I love anime, personally. It's another wonderful medium to tell fantastic stories, like manga and comic books and epic poetry and plays and movies and books. There are stories told through anime that are hard to tell any other way, just like how you always hear "the book was better" when compared to the movie. There are inherent limitations and possibilities to every artistic medium, and sometimes liking one over the other is a matter of simple preference.
As much as I think they're missing out, I have friends who will never get into anime, because it's animated. From what they tell me, as just an example, because they grew up with American cartoons they can't get past the "animated" part of the storytelling, because that type of animation was always for children, stuff they watched when they were growing up. For them, it'll always just be for kids. I think, like comic books, anime can address very serious, very adult themes but isn't taken very seriously by a large number of people. (For instance, the movie "Grave of the Fireflies" made me sob. Some reviewers have called it suicidally depressing, but it's a very simple story that revisits a very important period in history.) Not liking anime is fine, though. Like I said, people have their own preferences, and sometimes it's a question of aesthetics--whether you simply like how anime looks. It's a perfectly valid reason not to like something.
Also, a lot of first exposure to anime is through American dub...which is heresy. They try to make it "kid-friendly," and when an anime is about war, death, and personal choice, it's just total crap. Also, because much of the time the actors also grew up with animation as childish cartoons, sometimes they make their performances sillier, or goofier, just instinctively (think Scooby Doo voices), and it messes EVERYTHING UP. This isn't always the case, but the majority of the time, I'd say it is. Japanese voice actors are really respected in Japan for a reason, because they can imbue an entire inner life into their voices. Watch it with subtitles or don't watch it at all, is my view.
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I agree with everything you said! I only recently started watching "adult" animes, but I used to watched Yugi-Oh! before (was quite obsessed with it actually). I think ITL would work well in anime because there's a very idealistic, very utopian character to it, which I think would be best translated through animation. I think people's minds are more open when watching animation. Also, it would just be easier... the twins, the beauty, the physical perfection of the siblings, Colorful Orina Anoris, stark and modern Jacacea, the balloons, razeics, the siblings, etc. My main concern with adapting the story though is that it can potentially drown the more mature undercurrents of the story no matter the medium (real movie with real people or animation)...  When reading, you think about stuff more. When watching a movie or anime, you get distracted by the colors, the sounds, the settings, the torsos, the legs, you get my drift... |
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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2009, 09:47:48 PM » |
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Also, a lot of first exposure to anime is through American dub...which is heresy. . . Japanese voice actors are really respected in Japan for a reason, because they can imbue an entire inner life into their voices. Watch it with subtitles or don't watch it at all, is my view.
- Jae  I have to watch the subbed version or nothing. The Japanese voice actors are amazing. They treat it like a real movie and give the stories real depth and emotion. But it would rob us of the hot and juicy sex... cause Hentai is just... meh. It's better with real people.
Ya know... it'd be more real.
Vani If they have real actors to portray sex as explicitly as we get to read it in ITL it would be pornography. If it becomes actual pornography, then it will never get the budget it needs to really come to life in live action. You'd never pay for the CGI for an afternoon with Kudorin on a porn budget. Looking at it realistically, they would have to use anime to depict both the fantastic elements and the sexual elements of ITL. Or we would end up with real actors in a series who simulate nudity for 30 seconds per episode if we're lucky or we would get a watered down story with a bunch of dudes in bad colored wigs with the director showing close-ups of their junk more often than close-ups of their faces. If we ever want to see any version of ITL that can begin to incorporate all the things we get from the text, it would have to be anime. - Diamond |
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2009, 03:44:33 AM » |
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I have to watch the subbed version or nothing. The Japanese voice actors are amazing. They treat it like a real movie and give the stories real depth and emotion. Exactly! For instance, my favorite voice actor ever, Toshihiko Seki, played Riki from "Ai no Kusabi," and it's the sexiest, most rebellious thing coming out of someone's mouth. If we ever want to see any version of ITL that can begin to incorporate all the things we get from the text, it would have to be anime.
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Yes, definitely. Just considering the pure length of ITL, it would have to be anime. One of my favorite animes, "One Piece," because it's just so damn fun and has great emotional character arcs, debuted as a manga in 1997 and an anime in 1999. It's one of the most popular mangas in Japan, and one of the longest running. It's now on Chapter 531 in the manga (and still going really strong every week!) and episode 375 in the anime. My guess is that the manga will finish around Chapter 650-750, pure supposition. What's wonderful is because the producers know that the fanbase for the manga is so loyal, they never, ever change anything during the translation from manga to anime. It's pretty much word for word the same thing, so no disappointed fans. In no other visual medium can you get that kind of longevity. It's just not possible. And the fans are loyal. - Jae |
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Yes, definitely. Just considering the pure length of ITL, it would have to be anime. One of my favorite animes, "One Piece," because it's just so damn fun and has great emotional character arcs, debuted as a manga in 1997 and an anime in 1999. It's one of the most popular mangas in Japan, and one of the longest running. It's now on Chapter 531 in the manga (and still going really strong every week!) and episode 375 in the anime. My guess is that the manga will finish around Chapter 650-750, pure supposition. What's wonderful is because the producers know that the fanbase for the manga is so loyal, they never, ever change anything during the translation from manga to anime. It's pretty much word for word the same thing, so no disappointed fans.
In no other visual medium can you get that kind of longevity. It's just not possible. And the fans are loyal.
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Yes, definitely. Just considering the pure length of ITL, it would have to be anime. One of my favorite animes, "One Piece," because it's just so damn fun and has great emotional character arcs, debuted as a manga in 1997 and an anime in 1999. It's one of the most popular mangas in Japan, and one of the longest running. It's now on Chapter 531 in the manga (and still going really strong every week!) and episode 375 in the anime. My guess is that the manga will finish around Chapter 650-750, pure supposition. What's wonderful is because the producers know that the fanbase for the manga is so loyal, they never, ever change anything during the translation from manga to anime. It's pretty much word for word the same thing, so no disappointed fans.
In no other visual medium can you get that kind of longevity. It's just not possible. And the fans are loyal.
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It would be great to have something that wasn't bastardized for TV, staying true to the original. And you could never trust a TV show to stay on long enough to get through the whole series. It would take some really good animation or it wouldn't be worth it. BTW, I saw "Ai no Kusabi," and of course cried at the end. I loved the voice acting in "Mirage of Blaze". I was completely hooked. Diamond |
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It would be great to have something that wasn't bastardized for TV, staying true to the original. And you could never trust a TV show to stay on long enough to get through the whole series.
It would take some really good animation or it wouldn't be worth it.
BTW, I saw "Ai no Kusabi," and of course cried at the end. I loved the voice acting in "Mirage of Blaze". I was completely hooked.
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Definitely. The animation has to be great, or else I would die inside. And I AM SO HAPPY that you've seen "Ai no Kusabi."  It's a yaoi classic, and so, so beautiful. I cried at the end, too. If the animation quality ::cough:: from "Ai no Kusabi" could be translated to ITL...  Well. And Toshihiko Seki was SO OMG amazing in it. (I haven't yet seen "Mirage of Blaze," though it's been on my list of things to watch for a long time. I'll basically watch anything as long as Toshihiko Seki's in it.) - Jae |
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If they have real actors to portray sex as explicitly as we get to read it in ITL it would be pornography. If it becomes actual pornography, then it will never get the budget it needs to really come to life in live action. You'd never pay for the CGI for an afternoon with Kudorin on a porn budget. Looking at it realistically, they would have to use anime to depict both the fantastic elements and the sexual elements of ITL. Or we would end up with real actors in a series who simulate nudity for 30 seconds per episode if we're lucky or we would get a watered down story with a bunch of dudes in bad colored wigs with the director showing close-ups of their junk more often than close-ups of their faces.
If we ever want to see any version of ITL that can begin to incorporate all the things we get from the text, it would have to be anime.
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Uh, Falconer...Could you ship him to my home in Toronto? Preferrably nekkid?
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2009, 08:41:34 PM » |
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I love anime, personally. It's another wonderful medium to tell fantastic stories, like manga and comic books and epic poetry and plays and movies and books. There are stories told through anime that are hard to tell any other way, just like how you always hear "the book was better" when compared to the movie. There are inherent limitations and possibilities to every artistic medium, and sometimes liking one over the other is a matter of simple preference.
As much as I think they're missing out, I have friends who will never get into anime, because it's animated. From what they tell me, as just an example, because they grew up with American cartoons they can't get past the "animated" part of the storytelling, because that type of animation was always for children, stuff they watched when they were growing up. For them, it'll always just be for kids. I think, like comic books, anime can address very serious, very adult themes but isn't taken very seriously by a large number of people. (For instance, the movie "Grave of the Fireflies" made me sob. Some reviewers have called it suicidally depressing, but it's a very simple story that revisits a very important period in history.) Not liking anime is fine, though. Like I said, people have their own preferences, and sometimes it's a question of aesthetics--whether you simply like how anime looks. It's a perfectly valid reason not to like something.
Also, a lot of first exposure to anime is through American dub...which is heresy. They try to make it "kid-friendly," and when an anime is about war, death, and personal choice, it's just total crap. Also, because much of the time the actors also grew up with animation as childish cartoons, sometimes they make their performances sillier, or goofier, just instinctively (think Scooby Doo voices), and it messes EVERYTHING UP. This isn't always the case, but the majority of the time, I'd say it is. Japanese voice actors are really respected in Japan for a reason, because they can imbue an entire inner life into their voices. Watch it with subtitles or don't watch it at all, is my view.
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See I normally love animation. Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama, South Park, Most kids cartoons? LOVE THEM. I just cannot stand anime. I think it's cause I was of the age of pokemon when it first hit the states, and that's enough to ruin it for anyone.
Pokemon really is enough to ruin it for anyone. Back when it came out, I hated Pokemon for just that reason--that people would watch it and think that that was all that anime was. I just knew that it would happen. I hated it then, and I hate it now. It's kiddy anime, and it was terrible that so many people's first exposure to anime was that. Compared to anime like "Ai no Kusabi," "Death Note," "Berserk," "Gundam Wing," the "Rurouni Kenshin" movies, "Fullmetal Alchemist," "Bleach," the "Ghost in the Shell" movies, Hayao Miyazaki films (one of which won an Oscar)... Ugh. All of those animes have serious, adult themes, and a strong emotional pull. But Pokemon?!  It really pisses me off, when I think about how many people got turned off to anime all because of Pokemon. - Jae |
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Here are some casting considerations: More next post. REMIN, RINI, Talin, Anosanim
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This is who I would cast as Bade/Vade...what do you all think?
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Never mind the guy's face or body (I won't even attempt to cast the siblings...). What do you think about the hair? I was thinking it could at least pass for Anosanim's hair, no? Except his hair would be longer I suppose. Hmm, or maybe it's too girly? Not thick enough? Too big? Perhaps we should just stick to anime-hair?
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This is who I would cast as Bade/Vade...what do you all think?
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I can't see the pic, but since you showed me before - I can comment knowledgably. Mr. Van Winkle really is exactly how I pictured Bade and Vade, he just needs some more body hair.
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*whistle* That's a pretty piece of flesh right there! He looks like he would work as Bade/Vade!
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Can you see them now LilacM? I do have a way to put them on flickr, and then post, but this is easier.
FYI The first four were all their countries finalists for Mr. Gay World this year.
Mexico, Austria, New Zealand, Brazil.
The top 3, are a pair of mirror idential twins, Jacob and Joshua Miller
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I was suggesting Orinakin and Selorin.. their personalites fit best for that. I actually know them. ... and they are just as sweet as in the LOGO TV Show.. (also on iTunes, and now NETFLIX. Jacob and Joshua: Nemesis Rising. ) I have put up their fan site.. on myspace www.myspace.com/ldoza45 called *J&J Fan*. I have heard the songs Curb wouldn't let them put out cuz they were too HOT! " Body Language" ," Just the Right Size," "Work You Over" ... well you can guess the themes/lyrics... and love songs too, that make me cry.  There are snippets of those in the videos Josh and I put out. His site is youtube.com/ikbaikal, mine is youtube.com/watchdoza. Bunch of legal stuff going on so they are at a hiatus right now. Actually now that I think of it.. Jacob's temperment doesn't fit with either Orinakin or Selorin, Joshua could be either. It's just that I can picture how twins interact by knowing them. Jacob is probably more like Hitari. |
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The Pharaoah, maybe. Personally, I've always pictured T'rin and the rest of the Plains people as being darker skinned - kind of Native American in appearance.
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Compared to anime like "Ai no Kusabi," "Death Note," "Berserk," "Gundam Wing," the "Rurouni Kenshin" movies, "Fullmetal Alchemist," "Bleach," the "Ghost in the Shell" movies, Hayao Miyazaki films (one of which won an Oscar)... Ugh. All of those animes have serious, adult themes, and a strong emotional pull. But Pokemon?! Gundam wing was my first Fandom... and definitely my first slash fandom. I LOVE Gundam Wing...  Okay... on-topic. I know that no depiction of Kudorin or Remin or any of the seven siblings could do them justice. But I just think it would be impossible to get real actors anywhere close. I think the right artist get it as close as possible -- but you'd have to go with someone really talented - or not at all. Also...so what do you think- Is this wink, wave or red?  And maybe Jekari?  I'm still searching for Amarito! |
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Does it say in the discussion about how they are chosen, is it alway obvious which bela they will fit in? Do they have try outs? From ITL 6.1: “You were all trained?” Bade asked. “Very well,” Selorin said with a smile. “Trained and tested,” Banok said. “Chosen personally by the princes.” “There is an official training school,” Selorin said. “Young men and women apply there and go through the programs. After my brothers and I decided which three different types of men we wanted, Orinakin went to the school to select the belas.” His smile broadened. “The rest of us all just happened to have the afternoon free, so we went along to help.” “The best of the belas who aren’t chosen by the princes go to the guest belams,” Banok said. “Kudorin selected his belas personally,” Selorin added. -Matthew |
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LDoza: « Reply #20 on: March 11, 2009, 03:12:05 PM » Found pic of a hint of T'rin at the Adanotu festival.. remember, blue loincloth and boots and tattoos enhanced with blue/silver body art? (from NGLTF Miami Beach Party, 3.1.09) 
SilverMoon28 « Reply #21 on: March 12, 2009, 01:05:58 AM »Blueeeeee!!!
That looks really cool, actually.
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LDoza « Reply #22 on: March 13, 2009, 09:05:13 PM »Don't know if Falconer has this somewhere. But ? T'tin. or possibly Desin.... It's Vin Diesel.  ... and a shadowy Rini in background. 
Magical_Jen « Reply #23 on: March 14, 2009, 05:12:44 PM »Hmm was trying to add an image of what I thought might be a good person for T’rin but it seems that even the most basic computer task confound me. If someone could tell me how you posted yours to the reply box that would be much appreciated. my pics are too big for attachments, i'll try to link this somewhere else.
Matthew Haldeman-Time « Reply #24 on: March 14, 2009, 05:21:26 PM »If the picture's on-line, hit the second button on the second row of stuff above the reply box (underneath the button for italics, above the row of smileys). That should give you image tags. Then, if the picture's on-line, copy and paste the URL in between the image tags. [ img ]URL here[ /img ] (without the spaces) If the picture's not on-line, and you can't attach it, um, maybe you could describe it really, really well? -Matthew
Falconer « Reply #25 on: March 14, 2009, 05:22:42 PM »If it's not online (or if you don't have the url, but then you need to save it on your computer first), you need to host it on a website like imageshack.us, tinypic.com or imagevenue.com. It will give you a link which you can use with Matthew's method.
Magical_Jen « Reply #26 on: March 14, 2009, 05:36:04 PM »Success!   
blondiechic0 « Reply #27 on: March 14, 2009, 07:13:33 PM »Yes! Jen, that is exactly how I pictured him!
LilacMajesty « Reply #28 on: March 14, 2009, 08:32:23 PM »This is how I picture T'rin to look like (it goes with what Jen posted, actually):
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Magical_Jen « Reply #30 on: March 15, 2009, 05:16:42 PM »I don't know why, but I've always pictured T'rin as looking more Native American.
Yeah I can see how he could be but one of the reasons that lead me not to believe that he would not be Native American is that when Orinakin first describe T'rin he says he has a shaved skull. I know that we should not try to impose "earthy ideology" in the ITL universe but that description really does limit the type of tribes that T'rin could come from. While there are cases where Native American warriors would shave the frontal forelock of their heads as a sign of courage, for the most part hair especially keeping long hair is an important part of Native American culture. Moreover, in some Native American tribes to have, a shaved or scalped head is a sign of defeat, dishonor or disgrace; it is something done to certain enemies after a battle. Where as baldness in say and African tribe is typical. While T'rin's mannerism and dress would make it seem like he could be apart of either tribes. The way that Matthew had described the environment of the Plains and the way society works in Kela, it remained me many of the African cultures I read about in my tribal history course. Meh, I can be wrong though.
LilacMajesty « Reply #31 on: March 15, 2009, 05:59:33 PM »No where does Matthew say that T'rin has dark skin.
Lelehti Dazzio « Reply #32 on: March 15, 2009, 06:24:07 PM »No where does Matthew say that T'rin has dark skin.
I don't recall T'rin being described with dark skin colour. But damn, those guys are sure great to look at. Yummy.
Lelehti Dazzio « Reply #33 on: March 15, 2009, 06:28:23 PM »Don't know if Falconer has this somewhere. But ? T'tin. or possibly Desin.... It's Vin Diesel. ... and a shadowy Rini in background.
Magical_Jen « Reply #33 on: March 15, 2009, 06:28:23 PM »No where does Matthew say that T'rin has dark skin.
I don't recall T'rin being described with dark skin colour. But damn, those guys are sure great to look at. Yummy. He also doesn't say that he doesn't have dark skin. Actually when ever anyone talks about T'rins physical appearance they always refer too his muscle, histattoos, the taut smoothness of his skin or wonder at his lack of hair. His skin complexion is never mentioned, so I guess we all can keep picturing T'rin as we do.
JaeFire « Reply #35 on: March 15, 2009, 10:38:39 PM »I know that we should not try to impose "earthy ideology" in the ITL universe but that description really does limit the type of tribes that T'rin could come from.
I won't reveal what I think T'rin looks like, because it has no bearing on what I'm going to say: Like you said, we shouldn't impose "earthy ideology" in the ITL universe. With that as a given, it should then be understood that T'rin's "description" does not limit the type of tribes T'rin comes from at all--because we shouldn't be seeing him as coming from any tribes from the real world anyway, Native American or African. It's not fair to limit ITL to the strictures and limitations of the real world. This is a fantasy series, and more importantly, a literary work. Sure, things in ITL may remind us of certain cultures, but I very much believe that we should never, ever impose the mores, practices, and physical descriptions of those cultures onto ITL. It limits the scope of Matthew's work, and it leads to assumptions that have no basis in the text. Such imposition is not only unfair to Matthew's work, to the characters and the cultures, but it often lends itself to inaccurate literary interpretation. - Jae
Magical_Jen « Reply #36 on: March 16, 2009, 01:51:45 AM »Mm I knew I was going to get into trouble when I used the word “limits”. It was not my intention to limit the scope of Matthew work or trivialize the intricacies of ITL. However, part of this discussion consisted of people offering different images of what they felt that T’rin could possible look like. Because there was such a differences between the pictures I posted to the others that were offered, I thought that it would be interesting to offer and explanation as to what in the text lead me to visualize T’rin in the way that I did. I should have made this clearer when I prefaced my explanation by saying, “we shouldn’t impose ‘earthy ideology’ in the ITL universe”. What I meant is, if I could use what we know to be true about T’rin, and take it out of the context of ITL Universe and apply it to what I know to be true of some civilizations in our would then these are some of the assumptions that I would make. Yes, I realize that the purpose of these boards it that we would engage only with the text and that ideally we would only uses the literature to fuel our discussions, questions and out conclusions we make. However in cases where we haven’t received all the information or details about characters there are going to be times when we might uses information based on “earthly ideology” that will as you said lead to inaccurate literary interpretation. However, I thought we could embrace these mistakes, isn’t the purpose of out discussion to expose and explore all the facts and all hypothetical assumptions. Eighty-five members from all over the globe have or soon will participate in the discussion, and each will have will come with their experience and knowledge will likely seep into the discussion we see here. We still have to wait for six more books and the only one us that has the answers is Matthew, if we begin to censor our discussion because we may risk the change of inaccurate literary interpretation then these boards are going to get really tired very soon. That being said, Matthew if my remarks have managed to case any offences, that was not my intention it was most unconsciously done. I apologies, I meant no slight on your work, your world or your vision. In future, I will make a more conscious attempt to refrain from making comments that may incite any distress or is in need of reproach.
Matthew Haldeman-Time « Reply #37 on: March 16, 2009, 03:16:09 AM »That being said, Matthew if my remarks have managed to case any offences, that was not my intention it was most unconsciously done. I apologies, I meant no slight on your work, your world or your vision. No, not at all. You're fine.  I think that what we're seeing is a recurring theme. There was some concern about belas, because when we in our world think of sex workers, there's baggage attached. When we talk about priests, a few people have brought Catholic priests into the conversation (even though they're not relevant) because in our world, that's what we're used to. And now we're talking about what T'rin looks like, and it's natural to turn to what we know in our world and what we're used to. Since ITL is a fantasy series, though, it takes place not just "outside of our world" as if they were just next door on Mars; it takes place without our world. We don't exist. Our experiences and perspectives aren't theirs and have no bearing on their world. They do have bearing on how we read and interpret their world, and we have to be careful about when we bring our perspective into it and when we don't. What you imagine when you see T'rin is, ultimately, up to you. And unless the text describes him differently, one interpretation is as valid as another. If we say, Kudorin's a pharaoh, Egypt has pharaohs, therefore Kudorin looks Egyptian, that would be inaccurate, because you're basing what Kudorin looks like based on this world. Now, I will say, the world of ITL (aside from having two moons) seems to follow our math and science pretty closely, so I imagine that their weather/atmosphere/whatever works similarly to ours. I would guess that, having whole clans of people frequently exposed to the elements for generations upon generations, on the plains (which don't sound like a tundra), the sun would get to them after a while, and their skin wouldn't be pasty-white. But that leaves open a lot of variety of shading. -Matthew
Matthew Haldeman-Time « Reply #38 on: March 16, 2009, 03:30:35 AM »I don't want to stifle the conversation. I encourage y'all to discuss ITL in all directions. That's what this board is for!  At the same time, our world and the world of ITL aren't the same, and too much discussion where we put our cultural values/histories/etc. onto ITL's universe may lead readers to continue in those directions. When I write ITL, I'm carefully constructing a large world and several detailed societies. If we here on the board make real-life associations between our world and ITL's world, readers may pick up on those ideas and carry them over and apply them as they read ITL. Which confuses a lot of the issues and ideas I'm trying to present. What we know of basic human experience and human interactions, absolutely, bring those in. The ITL folks are human and they share in the same emotions we do. But if you know a lot of French diplomats, don't expect Orinakin to act just like them, because "that's how diplomats act." That's how diplomats act here on Earth inside of the culture, constraints, and political hierarchy of France. Which has nothing to do with Orina Anoris.
Matthew Haldeman-Time « Reply #39 on: March 16, 2009, 04:06:07 AM »This is horribly incomplete, but here are four random descriptions of T'rin: ...but [Bade's] musculature wasn’t as fiercely chiseled as T’rin’s... [ITL 14.2]
T’rin was muscular from effort, dark from the sun, and in touch with the land. [ITL 16]
It was amazing, how perfectly defined his muscles were, like he was a living sculpture of the perfect athlete. [ITL 22.8]
T’rin’s body was hard and warm, powerful and sleek, with devastating muscular detail... [ITL 26.6] T'rin's frequently described as muscular, but it's often with specific mentions of how defined/detailed/chiseled his muscles are, not how big they are. Considering what his job is, he has to be pretty light and fast. So, in my mind, that's less Desin/dukot and more "sleek." -Matthew
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JaeFire « on: March 07, 2009, 11:09:28 AM »So, like the "What Jacacea Looks Like" thread, I'm starting this thread so that people can post up pictures or images of what reminds them of the Jacacean imperial family (excluding Xio Voe), which can include landscape pictures of icy tundra, if that's what reminds you of one of them So why the thread? It's because a friend sent me a link to a music video they liked and wanted me to watch by Royksopp ("What Else Is There") and I was trying to figure out the name of the vocalist (it looks like there was lip-syncing involved, because they liked the look of the model and the singer, frankly, has no pictures that I can find). Anyway, during my search, a picture I came across struck me very much as what I imagined Xio Wae to look like. Of course, we don't know much about Xio Wae at all, except her age, so this is completely all in my imagination. I'm guessing that she looks like Xio Voe, in coloring at the very least (except I imagine her eyes are blue, since it's been made clear that the three distinct colors in Xio Voe's eyes are unique to him). And since he's absolutely, ridiculously, stupidly gorgeous, I imagine that she's beautiful, too. So, here's the picture (it's Norwegian model Marianne Schröder):  - Jae
JaeFire « Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 11:23:03 AM »Maybe a younger look, since she is 18:  This picture, in one way, isn't quite what I picture her as (the way she looked in the 1st photo), but in another way, it's more accurate than the 1st picture. Why? Because in this one, her eyebrows aren't tinted darker than they really are--they're white-blonde. (This picture is missing what my 1st one had, though: that cold, chiseled-from-ice, Jacacean beauty--the severe Jacacean beauty that Xio Voe has.) - Jae
Falconer « Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 12:51:43 PM »I really like the first picture. I never really thought about what Xio Wae looks like... but your first picture reminded me of another one I came across a couple of days ago...   Maybe a bit too "ice queen"? She's really pretty though.
LilacMajesty « Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 01:01:03 PM »Isn't Ice Queen what we're going for here? We are talking about the Jacacean royalty.
JaeFire « Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 01:11:24 PM »I really like the first picture. I never really thought about what Xio Wae looks like... but your first picture reminded me of another one I came across a couple of days ago...
Maybe a bit too "ice queen"? She's really pretty though.
Oh, those are fantastic! Yeah, it's "ice queen," but it fits the family profile. And what I love about it is that even though it's "ice queen"-ish, she still looks young, still gives off that 18-year-old teenager vibe. - Jae
Matthew Haldeman-Time « Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 01:12:11 PM »Jae, terrific first picture. Falconer, terrific both pictures. (Everyone be sure to click on the link in Falconer's post; don't miss the second photo.) I really like these options. Very Jacacean. If Xio Wae looks anything like either of those women, Desin may change his opinion of the imperial family. -Matthew
Falconer « Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 01:16:25 PM »Glad you guys like the photos. The model is Jessica Stam. (She's Canadian). (Everyone be sure to click on the link in Falconer's post; don't miss the second photo.)
I'll edit it so that it shows on the page.
SilverMoon28 « Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 01:51:47 PM »She's beautiful. I imagine Xio Voe to look very much like her.
Diamond « Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 05:48:07 PM »Falconer, she's beautiful! She looks delicate yet strong, with elegant icy features. Her long neck and fingers make me think she's super tall like a Jacacean. Good job!  - Diamond
JaeFire « Reply #9 on: March 08, 2009, 02:43:00 PM »General Question:Does anyone think I should remove the 2nd picture? I keep thinking it's messing now with people's image of Xio Wae, and I didn't intend for that to happen (I just posted it b/c of the fact that it's probably more accurate in terms of her hair coloring--eyebrows, etc., not her entire look). What think all of you? - Jae
SilverMoon28 « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 11:55:42 PM »
I like it. I mean, people can still think whatever they want. I say keep it until one of the moderators or The Great and Powerful Matthew asks you to take it off
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Falconer « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 11:55:42 PM »Don't know if she can top Stam in ice-queen-ness... but... found another one. Name is Sasha Pivovarova. (Russian) 
Falconer « Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 06:30:07 PM »And another one that reminded me of Xio Wae (Isabel Neumair): 
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anaskee « Reply #23 on: March 12, 2009, 04:23:59 PM »Hitari? Except for the eyes? http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/anaskee/hitari.jpg(warning: it's a pic under the link)
blondiechic0 « Reply #24 on: March 12, 2009, 04:46:45 PM »There are descriptions of him in several places, but I'd check out the beginning of ITL 20: Hitari’s dark eyes narrowed, slowly. They were so dark that only direct light and a discerning glance could locate the pupils. Talin had used to waste too much time blending paints to get the perfect near-black shade of brown, when he should’ve been working on his assignments. Loving Hitari had consumed too much of his brain, his time, his life. Talin and Bade have both called Hitari's eyes black. -Matthew I have always pictured his eyes to look like this: http://cdn.nhl.com/wild/photos/mugs/8465050.jpghttp://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0e3l0XCgHHf6w/610x.jpgHis eyes are actually darker than this in person, since these are all pictures, the light in showing off the brown. His eyes really are almost black though. This video is actually better to see it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wtImfR5wC4(about a minute in)
anaskee « Reply #25 on: March 12, 2009, 05:40:20 PM »Laura, I don't know anything about Hockey but that guy is cute! I fixed the eyes the best I can, so how about this: http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/anaskee/hitari-1.jpg
Matthew Haldeman-Time « Reply #26 on: March 12, 2009, 05:45:37 PM »I fixed the eyes the best I can, so how about this: That made a huge difference. Thanks for taking the time! -Matthew
blondiechic0 « Reply #27 on: March 12, 2009, 05:58:01 PM »He is pretty hot, and I always double take when I see him cause his eyes are like pitch black. And yes! I see hitari in that photo.
anaskee « Reply #28 on: March 12, 2009, 06:01:31 PM »I fixed the eyes the best I can, so how about this: That made a huge difference. Thanks for taking the time! -Matthew  Thanks!
SilverMoon28 « Reply #29 on: March 15, 2009, 02:22:51 AM »*THUD!!!!*
anaskee « Reply #30 on: March 16, 2009, 02:35:07 PM » Laura and I made you faint?
SilverMoon28 « Reply #31 on: March 16, 2009, 04:06:43 PM »It's it.... Hitari, man... *swallow*
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