ITL 178

[SilverMoon28]

Oh... my God.  My Gods...

Anoha Alanohi, and may the gods praise Talin.

I LOVE this!!!

Rolling her eyes, Anikira turned to Talin.  “You’re frighteningly good.  I came a little.”

*cackle*

I’ve seen pornography,” Remin said.  “I’ve studied it extensively.  There are erotic works that depict the romance of sexuality.  There is true romantic love at work in some pornographic art.  This particular series of paintings, however, these are works of love which happen to contain erotica.”

I laughed my head off here... studied it extensively... Remin... lmao.

*hugs Xio Voe just for the hell of it*

You KNOW I'm going to banner part of this...

“Mmm,” Remin said, his gaze drifting across the wall to nothing.  “No, it’s like when you’re been fucking for hours, and it feels like you’ve been fucking for days, and your muscles are exhausted but you want just.  One.  More.  You’re already slick with oil and sweat and his cum, and he fits inside you so, oh, so perfectly, and you’re both so aroused and so tired that you’re just moving together, your hips rolling slowly, and his hands are the only thing keeping you from sliding down to your back.  You’re so turned on and so close to the edge that you feel like this is normal, like this need and this urgency and this heightened awareness will always be with you, and then he gasps and jolts and starts to waver, and you realize that he’s come, already, and then he says your name, like he worships you, and you feel that sharp pinch, that sweet tug of teeth on your nipple, and you gasp, and you’re coming.  It’s a sweet, blissful second, just a moment, because you’ve already overworked your body and you’re too used-up for anything else.  But for a moment, you feel that sweet pulse of orgasm, and your breath trembles out of you, and you come, a little.  And then you’re slowly, slowly collapsing on the bed, and he slips out of you, and you’re just too tired to talk, too tired to take the blindfold off.”

I have to.

[CorsonBrenn]

“Show them to Anikira and our brothers,” Kudorin said again.  “We will decide then.”

I found it interesting that Kudorin says this and in the next scene Vade is one of the people viewing the paintings with the rest of the siblings. Now Bade I can understand as he is Orinikin's husband, but Vade isn't techically Kudorin's brother. So it would seem that Kudorin considers Vade a brother.

I think this is more evidence supporting the Vade and Selorin theories. I mean the other siblings were shocked when Bade was recognised by Kudorin as a brother, so Vade being included in this has to be significant.

What does everyone else think?   

Corson

[Mountie]

Vani...  I like this part

he says your name, like he worships you

Corson I am going to have to think on that.

[CourtneyLee]

I was laughing my ass off at this:

“Mmm,” Kudorin said, nodding, looking pleased.  “He still remembers you with great fondness.”

            Remin shrugged.  “And naturally so.  I was the first man to suck his toes.”

            “Toes?” Vade asked.

            “Only you would waste your time on that,” Desin said.

            “Waste my time?” Remin asked.  “Attention to the foot can provide some very erotic play.”

            “It certainly does,” Selorin agreed.  “Don’t you think so, Bade?”

            Nine vibrantly colored pairs of eyes swung to Bade.

            Pink to the tips of his ears, Bade said, in his own defense, “Orinakin has beautiful feet.  I wouldn’t neglect them.”

            “You do foot things?” Vade demanded, predictably scandalized.

            “Have you seen his feet?” Bade whispered.  “They’re perfect.”

            Vade’s gaze darted down to Kudorin’s feet.

            Grinning, Kudorin curled his toes.

            Coloring swiftly, Vade turned his back.  “I must agree with Prince Desin.  It seems like a waste of time.”

            “Liar,” Selorin murmured.

            Vade glared at him.

I love how everyone likes to screw with Vade, especially Kudorin. I agree with Corson, Anosukinom including Vade in things like this is hugely indicative of a future marriage into the royal family. Who else would it be but Selorin?

And this...

There were some unpleasant rumblings from the Jacacean community visiting the country.  They wanted to know why their ruler was depicted bare-chested and on sexual display when the same wasn’t true of the Anorian leaders.

            Which led to Desin, Rini, and Selorin all showing up in Talin’s office, suggesting, with varying degrees of earnestness, that he paint their aroused portraits, too.  To make things fair.

Why am I not surprised that it was these three that made the request? Desin and Rini are so free with their sexual attentions with such a variety of people that being on display like that would appeal and Selorin would get a huge power trip from his sexy painting arousing people without him even having to be there. Remin would feel the same and I'd imagine that the decorum surrounding the office of the royal high priest is the only thing that stopped him from asking Talin to paint him like that. But I can bet it crossed his mind.

And this scared me to no end:

The answer came.  According to Dimi, it varied widely from one Sibling to another.  It was difficult to compare Siblings within one generation or within one field, and to compare across generations and across fields was almost worthless.  There was, however, generally a marked increase within the first five years, as divine blessings met with hands-on experience.

            If you ask me, and everyone has, Dimi continued, in his bold, blue handwriting, that current royal high judge you’ve got is miles beyond me.  He has a keen ear; the boy hears nuances I never would’ve noticed.  Prince Selorin could find one teardrop of truth in the full length of the Great River.  Either the gods don’t care for me as much as for him, or they’re preparing him for something.  For his sake, I hope that it’s the former.

            Talin decided not to share Dimi’s opinions.  There didn’t seem to be much point.

[vicxn]

Either the gods don’t care for me as much as for him, or they’re preparing him for something.  For his sake, I hope that it’s the former.


I got a little shiver when i read this too  xx

[LilacMajesty]

Corson - you have an excellent point.  Vade is already being included like he's a member of the Anorian Royal Family.   That is another plus mark in the Selorin/Vade column.  Either that or Matthew is snickering at us right now. 

As for Selorin's future, I think we've been getting clues for awhile that there are some major changes in store - and not just for Orina Anoris and Jacacaea, but for their entire world.  Why do you think that Anosukinom himself is so different from previous Pharoahs?

[Susanne]

“Show them to Anikira and our brothers,” Kudorin said again.  “We will decide then.”

I found it interesting that Kudorin says this and in the next scene Vade is one of the people viewing the paintings with the rest of the siblings. Now Bade I can understand as he is Orinikin's husband, but Vade isn't techically Kudorin's brother. So it would seem that Kudorin considers Vade a brother.

I think this is more evidence supporting the Vade and Selorin theories. I mean the other siblings were shocked when Bade was recognised by Kudorin as a brother, so Vade being included in this has to be significant.

What does everyone else think?   


Great point and this isn't the first time Vade has been invited to a "family" thing. I know some of it probley has to do with him being Bades brother but i think there's also a little more then that to do with it. 

[Susanne]

Corson - you have an excellent point.  Vade is already being included like he's a member of the Anorian Royal Family.   That is another plus mark in the Selorin/Vade column.  Either that or Matthew is snickering at us right now. 

Your right he probley is snickering at us exspecially me....lol  Why do i have this little tiny feeling in the back of my head that I'm gonna be crushed like you were   ....ok i need to stop I think because of what happened to  is making me think that way.

TEAM SELORIN/VADE TO THE VERY END !!!!!



~~~ Coloring swiftly, Vade turned his back.  “I must agree with Prince Desin.  It seems like a waste of time.”

            “Liar,” Selorin murmured.

            Vade glared at him~~~

Am I the only one that finds this sexy when they do this to each other?? 


~~~“Kudorin!  Honestly.”  Blushing brightly, the royal architect turned away~~~

I just love it when  says his "Honestly" things it's so adorable.


I also see alot of big changes coming, now I'm real curious what the future holds for  .

[anaskee]

Anosukinom snickered.

And I can't help  everytime he does this.

“Show them to Anikira and our brothers,” Kudorin said again.  “We will decide then.”

I found it interesting that Kudorin says this and in the next scene Vade is one of the people viewing the paintings with the rest of the siblings. Now Bade I can understand as he is Orinikin's husband, but Vade isn't techically Kudorin's brother. So it would seem that Kudorin considers Vade a brother.

I think this is more evidence supporting the Vade and Selorin theories. I mean the other siblings were shocked when Bade was recognised by Kudorin as a brother, so Vade being included in this has to be significant.

What does everyone else think?  

Corson

I find this interesting as well.  Tiko has to be a very strong future king since the Vade just might stay in Orina Anoris permanently.

[CourtneyLee]

I think that WHEN Vade marries Selorin, there might be a couple solo trips to Nosupolis for Vade. That's the biggest impediment to their marriage, I think. Vade has an important function in the Nosupolin government and he loves his family, and marriage to Selorin will upset that. I wonder how Matt's going to fix that. 

Courtney <---- if I talk about it as if it's real, it might actually happen

[Dena]

As for Selorin's future, I think we've been getting clues for awhile that there are some major changes in store - and not just for Orina Anoris and Jacacaea, but for their entire world.  Why do you think that Anosukinom himself is so different from previous Pharoahs?

I've wondered for some time if the story we're reading isn't the story of the END of the era of the Seven Siblings rule.  As in our eight siblings are the last of their dynasty.  We know that there was a dynasty before them (The twins dynasty, I think it was?)  So maybe we're reading the story of the changing of the guard, so to speak, and that's why we're seeing so much change in this time period.

Also, I love Anikira.  I know there's a lot of people who prefer no girls in their slash, but I love her.  I would totally read Anikira and Kudorin sexy timez, or her hanging out with her belas, or. . . I don't care.  Getting ice cream with Anosanim.  Because she is awesome.

[Mountie]

You KNOW I'm going to banner part of this...

“Mmm,” Remin said, his gaze drifting across the wall to nothing.  “No, it’s like when you’re been fucking for hours, and it feels like you’ve been fucking for days, and your muscles are exhausted but you want just.  One.  More.  .... "

I have to.

You had too didn't you?

I am still a quivering mass in the corner because of this scene..  I hope tonight  I can speak about the chapter and maybe if I skip this part I can spend more than 3 minutess off in lala land. 

Damn!

And yes I have thought for a while this is the end of the Seven Siblings.  I want to talk more tonight about this.

[CourtneyLee]

The idea that this is that last generation of the Seven Siblings makes me sad. I acknowledge that it seems likely because there are a lot of indicators, but I don't want it to happen. I don't like the idea of Orina Anoris not having one of their gods physically with them. I don't like the idea that there will be no more brightly colored royal family. I wonder how Kudorin especially will take it. As Anosukinom, it might not phase him as much, but as a man, I think he'll be deeply affected, as will all of the Siblings.

It makes me  just thinking about it.

[Mountie]

I don't know what the gods have in mind but I don't imagine that it will be a smaller dynasty but more of a blended dynasty with Jacacea or more of a multinational dynasty with spouses coming from out of country for certain of the siblings.  I also think that there will be more siblings.  With Anorik having 8 children and Kudorin and Anikira planning on having 8, I am hoping that we are going to 8 siblings or blending the families to more siblings.

What do you think? 

[Shanghi]

Yes! Yes! YES! *collapses in a puddle*

*speaks from puddle on floor*

Kudorin speaks of the children he''l have with both Anikira &Xio Voe, like he's already seen them.I don't think this is the last generation of the Seven Siblings, but a begining of a new era of peace & prosperity for the whole world.

[CourtneyLee]

It's also possible that the other gods are keeping knowledge of a dynastic change from Kudorin. I hope that's not the case, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I like the idea of a slightly different version of the Dynasy of the Seven Siblings as opposed to something completely different. I really want Kudorin to have a gaggle of brightly colored kids and for the rest of the siblings to have little nieces and nephews to mentor in their fields when the time comes. Can you imagine how much trouble Rini will get into with the next Anosalim? 

[Dena]

It's also possible that the other gods are keeping knowledge of a dynastic change from Kudorin. I hope that's not the case, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

That was my thought, too.  I don't think it would necessarily be a sad END OF AN ERA sort of thing so much as a change in management - still gods and such, but a different method of ruling?  I don't know.  The hints of massive change just seem to me to imply that it may be a time for that.  And from a storyteller's POV - why THIS set of brothers, in a dynasty of 1000 years worth of them?  Other than us loving them and their personalities, why was it their story we're being told?  Because they were a mirror into their world and empire, and also the window of change - showing us how things were and then letting us see it built differently?  Most epic stories, which I think this qualifies as, given the length and breadth of it, are about change.  The end of Voldemort, the fall of Mordor and the end of the era of elves and such, the rise and fall of the Empire, etc.

Buuuuuut, it's highly possible that I'm overthinking.  I do that.

[berryblu]

  I don't see the whole world changing so rapidly within the next 30+ years, though, or even after the next generation.  I mean that the different nations will still be there.  The gods aren't just going to glom together into one set or so.   I see the nations working together more, but I don't see the world coming under one rule.  Orina Anoris works so very well with the divisions set up as they are that I think it will stay that way for quite some time to come.  Most of the world rejoices in their individuality.  I do hope that the Jacaceans begin to see their ways as stealing the individuality from others and that stealing as wrong.  There shouldn't be only "one true way" on that whole world as Jacacea wants it to be.  I do have serious trouble with Jacacea and their laws viewing the stealing of whole nations as acceptable when they have such a developed justice system that views theft as wrong.  After all it is the same thing, just degree differences.

[Dena]

I don't necessarily think it will all be one happy world, or combined rule of everything.  Just a change in format?  Possibly?

[CourtneyLee]

I think the only global change will be one of diplomatic cooperation, not of legislative unity. After over 6,000 of one way of governing, though, it's possible that Orina Anoris will undergo internal restructuring according to the gods the way it did when it went from the Dynasty of the Twins to the Dynasty of the Seven Siblings.

I hope that's not going to happen, though.  I like Orina Anoris the way it is right now.   

[Dena]

After over 6,000 of one way of governing, though, it's possible that Orina Anoris will undergo internal restructuring according to the gods the way it did when it went from the Dynasty of the Twins to the Dynasty of the Seven Siblings.

Yus, that's the kind of change I meant really.  Though it's just a hunch more than any real certainty, and I certainly wouldn't mind being proved wrong!

[Mountie]

Well we know that the gods will only do what is best for Orinia Anoris, so it will be all good.  The only drawback I see  as a modern woman is the requirement that the female Queen or Pharoh must spit out 7-9 kids in rapid succession.  If Kudorin shows them that the Pharoh has other options with child creation maybe Anikira won't have to have 8 children and still the responsibilities of  being the Queen.

But that is my preferences and prejudices showing through.

[Rebel]

I wonder who the guy was Remin was talking about? The one whose toes he sucked? Hmm......That little scene was unbeleivably hot, gotta say. Makes me want Remins book next.  I think what I'd like to see is Selorin/Vade interacting more, but not "together". Draw it out, so having Remin next would be great.   Plus, evidently something is going to come or change for Selorin, which may impact whether he and Vade are together and how. Its very intriguing.

[CourtneyLee]

Well we know that the gods will only do what is best for Orinia Anoris, so it will be all good.  The only drawback I see  as a modern woman is the requirement that the female Queen or Pharoh must spit out 7-9 kids in rapid succession.  If Kudorin shows them that the Pharoh has other options with child creation maybe Anikira won't have to have 8 children and still the responsibilities of  being the Queen.

But that is my preferences and prejudices showing through.

If the gods weren't actively involved in the process, I would absolutely agree. BUT here's why I think 7/8 kids in 7 or fewer years is all good in this situation: Anosukinom can change diapers with a thought, make sure that the non-divine parents feel rested regardless of how little they sleep, and there is a third parent to share the burden. Also, as wealthy royalty, they don't have to worry about things like doing the laundry, keeping the house clean, and cooking. Those things take up a LOT of time.

I hope that Anikira's trips are fewer and shorter during her childbearing years, but even then, she'll have servants there to help out. If all I had to concern myself with was bonding with, teaching, and spending time with my kids, I would have them one after another, too. Babies are so much fun and even when I want to strangle my toddler, she's wonderful, too. 

[berryblu]

  Not to mention that the gods are going to keep Anikira's health at optimum.  I mean that there wouldn't be the normal wear on a woman's body from those children.   

[SilverMoon28]

Furthermore, don't forget that it's been done several times before.  Anikira certainly will not suffer from this, Kudorin would never let her, so there's nothing to worry about =).

Vani

[Mountie]

Oh I am not worried I am just not a fan of the baby making machine mentality.  Just because it is an expectation of a culture that thier queen will always have 7-9 children and the woman who chooses to be the Queen has the option or not to say yes.  They have birth control, they have to be granted a child by the gods.  I wonder what will happen if Kudorin and Anikira's eldest is a girl and being exposed to the new Jacacean mindset of her father Xoe Voe and her Jacacean aunt and uncles says, No, as much as repect my history I choose not to have that many children. 

Like I said before this is not the story itself, it is my predudices and preferences showing through so I will    With this dynasty Anorians need 7 children.  That is this life.  I am glad that Anorik and Manosuta bore these brothers that I love.  I am pleased neither Anikira or Anorik are anything like me. 

[SilverMoon28]

Hey hey... I know exactly what you're saying, and Anikira is not a baby factory.  You don't really think that Kudorin will allow her to fall into that role?  I mean, yes, it's important to raise beautiful children, and I'm sure she'll do a fantastic job, but don't forget what her role as queen is.

It's like in today's society: women aren't expected to give up their careers anymore in order to have children.  My mom worked full-time and still raised me fine, and my dad was the stay-at-home parent .

Vani

[berryblu]

Remembering what's been said about the trips around the country while the current generation were children, I'd guess that Anikira won't in any way be just a baby factory.  Her job is just as important as any of the others to Orina Anoris.   It seems that she will be working full time.    She can't wait to start either.  I loved the scene where she began to review her plans and lists and maps.

[Mountie]

Absolutely berryblu, I am glad that Anikira is so strong that I am sure that when people look back on her rule as this generations Queen a part of it will be as the woman who gave birth to the next generation, another much larger part will be herself Queen Anikira.  I think of the dreams and desires she has for this trip, the things she wants to do the people she wants to meet.  She is waiting for her role to be what she has been dreaming of.  She doesn't sit there at her dressing table dreaming of parenting the next Anosukomin.  She dreams of fulfilling her role as Queen out with everyday Anorians.  BUT she has to wait till they are complete, a group of three before she goes and then she has to also have children on top of it.  I just don't think it is a fair division of labour.

Kudorin will be an amazing stay at home Dad.  Xoe Voe will also be a wonderful influence on the seven siblings as they will be raised with his five.  As much as we hope that Talin, Anosanim, Selorin and Remin will adopt children they will still have time for the next generation of siblings.  There is a wealth of parents or parent types for the next generation.   Anikira will be able to fulfill her duties as the Queen while she is in her childbearing years, they will be intense wonderful years.  I count all the blessings that she has this amazing infrastructure to support her and the royal family.  

My mom had 4 of us in 4 just over 4 years, no twins.  I know how close me and my siblings are being so close in age.  Add a couple of twins into the mix and I would have lived the Anorian Royal Family.  She loved being pregnant, she always said she never felt better than when she was pregnant.  I wish that Anikira has pregnancies like my Mom did.  I guess I am bemoaning something that can't change for women.  I guess that for me I would never would have been a canidate for Anorian Queen cause 7 kids? Sorry you are a god and amazingly handsome and all that.  BUT nope, I won't even think of it.

That's it I am grieving loosing my role as an Anorian Queen.

[CourtneyLee]

Not a fair division of labor? I'm unsure about what you mean by that. Anikira will be the pregnant one, sure, and she'll breastfeed, too, but there will be two other parents raising the kids with her. As a mom of two who breastfeeds, I can say with certainty that the things only a woman can do (being pregnant, giving birth, and nursing) are the easy parts of having kids. It's everything else that drives you nuts, like constantly being beholden to your offspring, discipline, potty training, lack of consistent sleep, etc (and that's just up to the toddler years), and those things both/all parents share in equally. I can't imagine Kudorin or Xio Voe not pulling their weight on the parenting front, especially when one of them is an omnipresent, omnipowerful deity.

Besides, Kudorin is going to be the ultimate stay at home dad. He could probably raise thirteen kids by himself and they'd turn out great.   

[Shanghi]

As the oldest of 12 childern...7 is rather midrange for me....if I hadn't got divorced, I'd had a least 3 more kids then I did.

Don't think Anikira well have to worry about things like morning sickness or stretch marks either....Kudorin would never let that happen to her.

[Mountie]

He doesn't have to sleep either, so he can really be with the babies and children if they need him too.   It will be really interesting to see how Kudorin handles the feeding part of his and Xoe Voe's 5 when they are babes as well. 

[Shanghi]

Uh yeah.... *giggles*