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« on: February 08, 2009, 10:37:34 AM »

How was my day... well...

I just totally went off on this girl I chat with sometimes...

She lives in Bulgaria, a country here the legal system sucks, corruption's everywhere, and, even though it's illegal for kids to drink before they're 18, they drink anyway.

This girl... is 14 years old... and here she goes talkjing to me about how she partied.  Yep, I went off on her.  Her parents don't give a flying crap, because they know she drinks, but they don't say anything to her about it and hey, even when her friend got caught drinking underaged, he paid the police so that they wouldn't arrest him.  So, of course, that makes it all okay.

Oh yes, I'm totally pissed off at her.  I figure if she's already downing 3 vodkas a night along with a beer and a tequila, it won't be long until she gets pregnant and does drugs.  But hey, it's all right because 'everyone else does it'.

That was my rant for the day.  I'll go punch a wall now.

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2009, 12:28:24 PM »

Not knowing the girl in question, I can't offer any advice.  But I would've lost it.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 01:38:50 AM »

There is the same problem in Sweden.

I have a living example at home. My brother began drinking and smoking when he was about 13 years old. And there is a lot of that in Sweden. Mom knew about it, but what could she really saw? Forbid him to drink? That would just make it all worse. Then he would sneak out, steal both money and alcohol and party even worse, just to show that he doesn't care about what she said.

I know how angry one can get at it. I have banged my head against the wall a few times too, when I have tried to talk to my brother. Nothing works, except that the parent allow the drinking, but place a few rules. Like; Come home after the party, tell me what you drink, call if anything changes, call if something happens.

Today my brother tell mom everything. Whom he party with, where he is, what he is drinking and if something happens, he always call home, even if it is in the middle of the night. And now he is 19.

So don't be angry, it won't help at all. I know.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 02:24:03 AM »

Yeah, there's a big difference between an underaged person drinking -- as long as there are limits, I don't worry so much about that -- and anyone, especially and underaged person, being that out of control. From what you've described, it's not just that she's drinking, it's that she's a burgeoning alcoholic at the age of 14.

I'm sorry you have to deal with that. And I'm really sorry that her parents are such complete assholes. Permitting your child alcohol, once in a while, is one thing. I grew up that way, and one of the reasons I was never, and still am not, all that into alcohol is because it just wasn't that exciting when I was younger;  mom and dad were okay with it, so it didn't make my teenage-rebellion sense tingle. But refusing to set limits for your child and not calling them on their shit when they've gone too far is complete and utter incompetence.

People should have to pass a common sense test before they're allowed to procreate.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 02:49:26 AM »

I'm sorry you have to deal with that. And I'm really sorry that her parents are such complete assholes. Permitting your child alcohol, once in a while, is one thing. I grew up that way, and one of the reasons I was never, and still am not, all that into alcohol is because it just wasn't that exciting when I was younger;  mom and dad were okay with it, so it didn't make my teenage-rebellion sense tingle. But refusing to set limits for your child and not calling them on their shit when they've gone too far is complete and utter incompetence.

I totally agree with you.  I grew up like this, too.  My parents weren't blasé about drinking, because they didn't drink much and didn't want me to pick up the habit, but we had alcohol at home and letting me have some just wasn't a big deal.  There was no "forbidden fruit" aspect to it, so I never felt the urge.  Nowadays, I drink on average once every 3 or 4 months, and not to get drunk.  Before college, I tended not to pick friends who were enamored and obsessed with alcohol because of its forbidden allure, because I thought they were idiots.  I had goals to meet while they partied their lives and their grades away.  I grew up raised with the sentiment that it's just a drink--no more, no less, so I exorcised my rebellious teenage tendencies elsewhere in ways that wouldn't cut off my nose to spite my face.

Now that I'm in college, I understand the urge people have here to party, to drink, because some of them work so hard that they need to let off steam, but there's a difference between responsible social drinking and consistently passing out on the street because you're always out of control when you drink. 

(By the way, I saw someone recently just pass out on the sidewalk just like this two blocks away from my apartment as my roommate and I drove home from late night grocery shopping, and two of her friends let us know when we slowed down for her that we didn't need to stop, that it wasn't an emergency--"It's okay, she's just drunk, she needs to rest, we'll take her home."  I mean, yay for Safeway being open 24 hrs., but man, some of the things you see late on a Wednesday night.  ...I am such a cranky old woman.  Grumpy)

People should have to pass a common sense test before they're allowed to procreate.
Clap Clap Clap  Yes.  But one would also think that people would need a common sense test to actually live, and yet they bumble about still alive despite that, so...  ::shrug::  It's like the people who go to zoos and purposefully and consciously ignore all the signs and the fact that there's a dangerous animal in the cage/habitat, get their arm bitten off by a tiger, and have the nerve to complain about it.  Natural selection--we should let it take its course, that's all I'm sayin'.  (I'm a jackass sometimes, I'm aware.)  But you know, in a couple of decades, it's predicted that this planet is going to have 8 billion people on it, and part of that population will be born from people who wouldn't pass a common sense test.  And that's a sad thing for everybody.

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 03:05:47 PM »

Yep, I grew up in similar situations as Rhia and JaeFire where my parents didn't exactly want me drinking but were more than ok with allowing me to try their drinks, even at a young age.  Because I grew up with my parents drinking responsibly around me I was used to being around alcohol and it never seemed like such a huge, forbidden thing.  Then when I got to college and my roommates were crazy about getting fake IDs and getting smashed every night I just was never into it.  I've certainly had my drunken nights of craziness but I never went through the same thing a lot of other kids seemed to.  And now I'm a recent graduate who doesn't care to drink excessively often at all.  I prefer just a couple of margaritas with dinner, I'm even starting to like wine -  I feel so sophisticated lol

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It's like the people who go to zoos and purposefully and consciously ignore all the signs and the fact that there's a dangerous animal in the cage/habitat, get their arm bitten off by a tiger, and have the nerve to complain about it.  Natural selection--we should let it take its course, that's all I'm sayin'.  (I'm a jackass sometimes, I'm aware.) 

Have you ever read the Darwin Awards (people that remove themselves from the gene pool by being idiots)?  They are fabulous!

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 07:42:23 PM »


Have you ever read the Darwin Awards (people that remove themselves from the gene pool by being idiots)?  They are fabulous!

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Yes, I have!  My roommate has one of the books. 

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 10:21:50 PM »

Goodness.  Google Ads are amazing.  Have you seen what's at the bottom of this thread?

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2009, 02:01:07 AM »

Goodness.  Google Ads are amazing.  Have you seen what's at the bottom of this thread?

“Alcohol drink recipes”
“Teenage Alcohol Drinking: Learn How to Deal With This Issue"
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"Be Safe and Alcohol-Free”

I'm kind of impressed despite myself.

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lmao, sounds good.  Gotta love those tracking cookies, huh?  Right now, for some reason, I'm seeing something about buying apartments in Rio de Janeiro... and earlier, I clicked on a German add about some warrior game...

Sorry, veering off-topic...

Yes, I'm bored and doing what I can to keep myself occuppied.

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